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dollars in cuts in spending based on our withdrawal from iraq and afghanistan. that's just not real. but i believe the result of negotiations with speaker boehner, senator mcconnell and senator reid they could arrive at a conclusion because the major objection that a lot of us had was we don't want to increase taxes. the majority leader reid has already made that concession in his proposal. >> schieffer: senator, the thing that i wonder about is i think the congressional leaders on both sides are ready to make a deal but what i wonder about is can the followers go along with the leaders or will the congress stumble into some kind of default here despite the best intentions of the leaders on both sides? >> i believe they can and will. how soon is... i'm not clear on. it may require some kind of a warning shot. for example, watch the markets tomorrow, the financial markets around the world. i believe that the american people have very different views about what we're in, but the major view is disdain and even larger than that is that they want us to sit down and agree to something because th
. >> in terms of large operational bases at 9/11, they had afghanistan. to plan, to recruit, to store material, to train, to strategize in safety. today they still have part of afghanistan. they have a big swath of pakistan. they're in yemen. they're in somalia. they're all the way across north africa in a growing movement that's now reaching down into the western part of africa. and so just objectively you really don't need an opinion. you just need to look at the facts, sir. al qaeda is much bigger and much more geographically dispersed than it was at 9/11. >> chad, would you agree with that? and what kind of operations are we talking about in places like algeria and eenggypt compared t what they had in afghanistan when they had the harboring government of the taliban? >> i couldn't agree more with michael. and i'd actually go a step further to say not only is he right that they have now expanded geographically and have multiple launch points for operations but if we step back and look at that map you'll see it lays over very nicely with what we're witnessing with the arab spring. we're also
of that part of the savings that the majority leader reid hopes to get is from the war in afghanistan and iraq beginning to wind down. and the cbo has looked at that and said there's a trillion worth of savings that's not real savings because everybody knows the war will wind down. when you look at it as i see it harry reid's proposal is about $950 billion worth of savings. john boehner is $917. quite similar. not the 2.2 or 2.4 that's being talked about. so we do have to do more in term of the immediate cuts in order to extend it for the period of time the president would like. the alternative is this two step process. a trillion dollars now and then have this special committee that would meet and report by the end of november and then there would be additional savings under the boehner proposal. that's almost $2 trillion additional savings, 1.1 trillion. >> the president says he doesn't want to have another formal vote next year and put the country through this ordeal once again right in the middle of elections. he has a point there, right? >> well, wolf, he doesn't have much a point of putt
of the war in afghanistan than the rest of republicans. they've been only barely more likely than republican voters in general to see federal government debt as a serious threat to the country. on this show last night, wayne slater, who has been covering the potential presidential candidacy of rick perry as well as the politicking in iowa explained the republican base right now that he's seeing as a seasoned political reporter as tee van jell call. i think that's much closer than the -- closer to the truth than common wisdom has been. however, this year, however much that drives the pundit class to distraction about how different politics will be this year, really what republicans are dealing with is a traditional conservative base this year that is extra obsessed with abortion. there is nothing new under the sun. maybe the universe is trying to remind us of that by having newt gingrich run again. when you look at the evidence, seems like an upserge of the faction the republican party has harbored for a generation now and ignoring the religious and thee cattic impulses makes things in politi
, that's clear, isn't it? so there he was, he was making his 15th trip to afghanistan and it was while he was over at camp leatherneck that the marines asked him, okay, if there are a bunch of pentagon cuts, how is that going to affect our equipment and stuff like that. and wherever he has gone so far during this particular swing through the country of afghanistan, the troops are saying are we going to get paid? and he's saying, i don't know. just know this whatever you are owed you'll get paid eventually. you know, and this is how this works down. if we do, talking about if we go into a debt ceiling where we can't pay our bills technically which i don't agree with anyway, let's say, the president has the tablt to decide who gets paid when. clearly the debt is going to get paid first. china and saudi arabia are paid before our military, as bad as that sounds, that has to happen, so our borrowing costs don't go through the roof and then pay the military and social security, and if you dodonn tt order, give the department of education money first, it's the president's fault. it's not congre
. the reid plan says we won't be in iraq and afghanistan. that's $1 trillion. we'll have a commission. that will save us $$1 billion. those aren't real. >>> the problem you have is ideological purity. when you sit here and look at the congressional budget office, made it clear that if the bush tax cuts were not extended, all of them, deficit goes down. if you extend all of them, $3.3 trillion increase over ten years. that's fact will we won't sit here and debate a fact. it is a fact. and so on democratic side, it is crazy to sit here and say we have no issue with medicare, medicaid. no issue with social security. you have rising costs. at some point you cannot have people on the democratic side and the republican side say absolutely not. i'm not giving up anything. you have to be able to give up something. >> the republicans were willing, at least until recently. you heard john boehner, the speaker of the house saying he was willing for $800 billion in tax revenue. increases in taxes in effect. that's not ideological purity. >> right. could he sell that to his party? >> and at the end
they are. i know a way to cut $2 trillion out of the deficit, end the wars in afghanistan, and iraq, and libya, those wars cost us $157 billion last year, the cost is going up, not down. if you want to say $2 trillion, how about peace? give that a try? >> social security, a bigger deal, it seems like. harry reed was on "meet the press" said we didn't have a problem. the president now wants to put it on the table. the president acknowledged it is not part of the deficit problem, that is starting to sink with in americas. >> social security is not the source of our deficit problems. social security if it is part of a package, would be an issue of how do we make sure social security extends its life and is strengthened. >> so, strengthened means cuts, get the code language out here. any time you want to strengthen something, you are going ask consumers, who pay into the program, have to do more for the two top percent. if it is not the the source of the problem, why address it now? >> washington sdwided the meanies and weanies that is the two-party system. the meanies want to take soci
with the war in afghanistan, not to bring jobs back to the american economy, but to cause the president of the united states not to be re-elected, any proposal from somebody in that mode is something that's going to take a little close scrutiny before you sign onto it. >> mcconnell has lost credibility with you? >> it's a question of what his priorities are, and if that's his priority, then thing that is he proposes need close scrutiny. i don't want to kick the idea to the curb. it could be a solution to this, but we need to see the details. >> congresswoman edwards, $4 trillion is a heck of a lot of money. are you one of the 77 that signed off to this letter that keith ellisson told me about today? >> i have. my principle concern is about cuts to medicare and social security. i made that very clear and sent a letter last week to the president telling him that what i want to be clear about is we don't do anything that con strains the president's hands. i'm looking forward to hear from him about his response to the mcconnell proposal. what i will say is republicans are all over the map.
scott moore stationed in musa qala, afghanistan. he posted a video on youtube and asked mila kunis to go to a marine corp ball in november. >> hey, i'm sergeant moore, but you can call me scotty. i would like to invite you to the ball in greenville, north carolina. with yours truly. take a second, think about it, get back to me. bye-bye now. >> mila is out promoting her new movie and with some prompting from her co-star she's agreed to go. >> only a marine could pull that off. it has to be said. there's a lot of swagger going on. >> i met her recently and she's incredibly cool. she's really nice. i think it's so cool. that's really planning ahead on his part. very clever of him. >> men all over the country now sitting in front of their webcams making their videos about to send them out. >> no doubt about that. >> don't do it. >> thanks. >>> more to come. back to the serious stuff. did you see the interview with kidnapping victim jaycee dugard? in her own wards you'll hear what she faced for 18 years, mostly in the backyard. how she says you can triumph over tragedy. dr. drew joins us to
here. >> thank you. >>> up next, how can an al qaeda terrorist in afghanistan, a triple agent, if you will, manage to infiltrate the cia and kill seven operatives? we're going to talk to the author of a hit new book that takes us inside the 2009 attack. that's next, and this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> the u.s. government's remaining shares in the company meaning the government's $12.5 billion bailout ended up costing taxpayers $1.3 billion. >>> we'll be right back. 8gg@ú >>> welcome back to "hardball." it's been more than two months since u.s. special forces shot and killed osama bin laden. in the wake of that success, it's easy to forget the long, hard road to get there. back in debt of 2009, the cia thought he had the ultimate double agent who would lead them to the top echelon of al qaeda but turn out to be a triple agent, buried so deeply into the cia when he detonated the bomb he was wearing he killed seven cia agents as well as himself. "washington post" national correspondent jody warrick writes an that and how the cia was duped in his new book calmed "the triple threat:
of parents of deceased members of the armed forces in the united kingdom who were killed in afghanistan and iraq. >> what were they hoping to find in hacking those calls? >> obviously, they were looking for information about families, they were looking for details about millie, did she disappear, this 13-year-old girl, was she with a boyfriend somewhere, so they had access. >> the number of people that had to be involved in this exercise sounds pretty big. >> and this is remarkable. in 2007, the managing director of "news of the world," who is now the director of "the "wall street journal"," went before a house select committee and said there was one rogue reporter at "news of the world." it's now emerged it was rife throughout the paper that virtually everybody involved was hacking someone's phone for stories, and that's why rupert murdoch took the decision at the weekend to close that newspaper for good. that's a newspaper that's existed for 168 years. no more. >> and the law on this in britain? >> oh, it's a criminal offense. but what's worse is it's now emerged that they had fiscal
or daughter, husband or wife is in iraq or afghanistan, might cost them their check if we get three or four or of six days past august 2nd. >> i heard you say earlier we're seeing a generational divide in the house right now, the results of a generational divide. >> no question in the republican party there's a huge generational divide. as gloria just noted, a lot of these 87 freshmen, they're not career politicians. they were car dealers, maybe they were prosecutors. some of them were farmers. they don't feel bebeholden to the speaker. they think the people telling them to compromise are the people who built the pile of debt, the miss we're in right now. they don't truss them. remember a lot of people are making fun of them. a lot of people say these crazy tea party party. why won't they compromise? they won the last election. the last time america spoke they sent these people to washington. so they think that's what they were sent here to do. now, maybe the public's changed its mind. maybe the president and democrats have convinced them otherwise. but they just in november won an election
in afghanistan and i spoke to a very senior norwegian government official and he described the man as a neonazi and they are finding it very difficult to believe this was just his work alone. this was a very sophisticated and coordinated attack, and in addition to the shooting, they think maybe two or three bombs in the city center and powerful bombs. the truck bomb from the building and friends i talked to in oslo say the radius went out to 1,000 meters that windows were sheeterred and they believe there was a second bomb not baitsment of the building where the prime minister's office was so very sophisticated and well coordinated attack. >>clayton: an attempt to assassinate the prime minister there who was expected to give a talk, today, at the youth camp where we hear reports that there could have been other bomb materials found at the catch, as well. when you talk about "naive." what do you mean? >>guest: very good and humble "for my people" and one of the best allies we have, but a very humble people. they have supported peace. that is home of the nobel peace prize and they never thought a
are going to eventually end in iraq and afghanistan on a date, right? now, boehner's problem with the reid plan is that it takes the big three right off the table. and, of course, the real republican two-step is to kill the new deal and defeat president obama and create more opportunities for more tax breaks at the top. neither one of these plans tonight, it must be pointed out that this is somewhat of a capitulation on the parts of the liberals and the democrats -- neither one of these plans has a tax increase. so that is a victory in itself for the republicans, isn't it? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, what do republicans really want? debt reduction or failure of president obama? text "a" for debt reduction, text "b" for failure of president obama to 622639, and you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the program. i thought tonight john boehner looked like a schoolyard bully who wanted it his way and no other way. and i found it interesting that he talked about his experience as a small business o
the debt. you didn't vote for him, but the wars in iraq and afghanistan have required all this money. it is fair to say this is his problem? >> no, it isn't his problem. as a matter of fact, even though i don't think the administration has helped get us out of the recession, it's gotten much worse. i never say it's obama's recession. i talk about long-term problems. i talk about military changes back in the '70s and creating the anticipation i've had that we would reach this point. so no, it's been many administrations, it's been both parties. even go back to the people. there's a high demand by the people to have entitlements. then there are a lot of special interests who think that we should be the policemen of the world. there's a lot of blame to go around. as long as it's a blame game and a power struggle, it's power and blaming and a power struggle and that's why we don't get anywhere. my goal has always been to get the american people to ask what should the role of government be? should the role of our government be to be the policemen? should it be there to tell us how to run
savings account for scaling back the wars in afghanistan and iraq. let's talk now to a new member of the senate who opposes both of these plans. he says they don't do enough to bring fiscal sanity to washington, senator rand paul, republican of kentucky, is with us this evening. senator paul, the conservatives in the house can't round up the votes to pass their plan. speaker reid probably has 52 or 53 for his, but he doesn't have the 60 votes he would need to get it through the senate. we're days away from a potential default. would you prefer default to either of these two plans. >> no. but the interesting thing is the conservatives did round up the votes. the conservatives in the senate and the house. we got 234 votes in the house last week for cut, cap and balance to balance the budget and to raise the debt ceiling the full $2 trillion, exactly what the president wants. it's interesting the dynamic here because some are saying we're unwilling to compromise. we already offered the president $2 trillion increase in the debt ceiling. all we want in exchange is a balanced budget am
on our hands with afghanistan, the debt ceiling, joblessness, and all of that. we can't help but notice a school yard scuffle on the floor of congress. on one side, debbie wasserman schultz, the chairman of the democratic national committee, never met a sound bite she didn't like. and on the other side, alan west, republican from florida's second district, a tea party favorite and no stranger to controversy. they're practically neighbors, right. it started when representative schultz lobbed something over the backyard fence. take a listen. >> incredulously, the gentleman from florida, who represents thousands of medicare beneficiaries, as do i, is supportive of this plan that would increase costs for medicare beneficiaries, unbelievable from a member from south florida. >> well, neighbor west took huge offense at this. he fired back an e-mail to her personal e-mail, i might note, and he said, i quote, "you are the most vile, unprofessional, and despicable member of the house of representatives." wow, that tells you something, especially considering how many might qualify for that title.
. they take -- they say we're going to wind down in iraq and afghanistan and save a trillion dollars without having a war for ten more years. who thought we'd be there for ten more years so republicans say that's a gimmick. the reid plan will have a hard time passing and will not pass the house so you've got the two plans out there are ultimately horses you can't ride to the finish line and the issue becomes, what comes after them and can you get it done before monday or tuesday of next week? i think we're heading towards a two or three-week extension of this fight. i think the president will accept some sort of extension for two or three weeks to allow this fight to play out. >> when we come back we'll talk to our panel and get james carville's take and eric erikkson's take on those two plans. let us know what you think. i'll be tweeting and on facebook. >>> ahead, norway terror suspect. what we learned and his new claims he didn't act alone and and the chilling 1500-page anti-muslim manifesto. >>> and the dominique strauss-kahn case. the maid at the center of the assault. breaks her silenc
to army sergeant leroy petrie. he lost his hand while throwing away an enemy grenade in afghanistan, saving two other rangers. >>> mississippi's attorney general is suing the administrator of the spoil fund, accusing him of denying claims. >>> cindy anthony will not face perjury charges. >>> meanwhile, a professional team in texas is suing casey anthony for more than $100,000 for the money it spent. >>> and scherrwood schwartz died in hollywood today. >>> welcome back to "hardball." with the "news of the world," the scandal went to the top today. rupert murdoch, his son james and top editor rebekah brooks all summoned to appear next week before a british parliamentary committee. last night former prime minister gordon brown announced "news of the world" hacked his records. he also described his reaction to the 2006 "sun" newspaper report that revealed his son had had cystic fibrosis. >> in tears. your son is now going to be broadcast across the media sarah and i were incredibly upset about it. we were thinking about his long-term future. we're thinking about our family. >>> joining
to the pentagon budget, and it assumes that the wars are going to eventually end in iraq and afghanistan on a date, right? now, boehner's problem with the reid plan is that it takes the big three right off the table. and of course, the real republican two-step is to kill the new deal and defeat president obama and create more opportunities for more tax breaks at the top. neither one of these plans tonight, it must be pointed out that this is somewhat of a capitulation on the parts of the liberals and the democrats -- neither one of these plans has a tax increase. so that is a victory in itself for the republicans, isn't it? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, what do republicans really want? debt reduction or failure of president obama? text "a" for debt reduction, text "b" for failure of president obama to 662639, and you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the program. i thought tonight john boehner looked like aç schoolyard bull who wanted it his way and no other way. and i found it interesting that he tal
savings based on savings on troop levels in iraq and afghanistan. >> well, interesting enough while they're calling the overseas contingency operation dollars phantom funds, anderson, you may know they used those funds and put them in their own budget that they've already voted for and relied on. >> so where do you see this going? what do you think happens tonight? what do you think happens tomorrow? >> well, of course, i don't know what's going to happen tonight. obviously the republicans are meeting with themselves to see whether or not they have the votes to pass what john boehner has offered as a purely partisan alternative. we were not involved in those discussions. we were not involved in the decisions. and it's interesting that even in their own party it is deeply factionalized, deeply divided paint, divided against their leadership, angry at their leadership, and a party that is divided itself has difficulty working with the president or working with us. and that's unfortunate. and the country is the poorer for it. and the image of america is poorer for it. and i would hope that
, well, 1.1 of that or more are phantom savings from ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan we're going to end, anyway. those are not real cuts. and boehner wants to come back. it's complicated. i'm still hopeful we'll get something. i think the stock market going down 200 points today, while bad news for 401 k owners i think really did send a powerful message to the congress. you're really playing with fire here now. the markets are -- you thought monday the markets were complacent. they're no longer complacent. they're sending you a strong signal, buddy. get your act together or you're going to have real trouble. >> they can try and play the blame game. >> go ahead, gloria. >> i was going to say, they can try and play the blame game with each other, which i'm sure they will do. because once you pass a bill in the house the republicans can say, look, we've done it. we've done our work. once you pass a bill, a democratic bill in the senate, democrats could say we've done our work. but i think they're beyond that, anderson. because i think they will all suffer in the end if they don't ge
have spent in iraq and afghanistan war. so, how do we get a compromise? that is an enormous question because the senate bill will not pass in the house and the house bill will not pass in the senate. we spoke to one republican congressman who said he voted "no," and here is why. >> you hear compromise, compromise, compromise. compromise got us in the mess we are in. the conversation i amer worked about is in eight to 10 years when my 8-year-old daughter says dad, why do i owe so much money. that is what i am preparing to answer. >>clayton: and rush limbaugh saying early in the week he was saying the g.o.p. were being played like saps and in the end we would see a reid bill with president obama behind it and it would be the democrats' plan. yesterday he came out and congratulated conservatives saying the no votes deserve a round of applause. >> i want to say something to conservatives out there. i want to tell you how damn proud of you i am. because you made this happen. the conservative so-called media inside the beltway would have exempted anything. yesterday, the day before, and la
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